tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11282727.post4824987528490036307..comments2024-03-09T04:13:53.858-06:00Comments on Accidental Deliberations: Leadership 2012 RoundupUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11282727.post-82793644917557815512012-03-09T21:03:22.660-06:002012-03-09T21:03:22.660-06:00Agreed that the panel discussion was pretty painfu...Agreed that the panel discussion was pretty painful, but was curious to see if any readers would make the point. :) <br /><br />Not that I'd describe the panelists that way, but it's painful to watch commentators who can be as smart as those three (at least on the right issues) offer such a ludicrous description of NDP member thought processes.juristnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11282727.post-48331556787123222862012-03-09T21:00:59.370-06:002012-03-09T21:00:59.370-06:00I'd distinguish between "rolling in the m...I'd distinguish between "rolling in the mud" and issue-based campaigns - while the Cons have won power with mud-slinging for the consumption of less-informed voters, they've largely funded that with issue-based fund-raising aimed at a reliable set of targets (the gun registry, the CBC, etc.). The fund-raising prowess is something we'll need to match - even if we also need to be able to find more positive uses for the money.juristnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11282727.post-17687487594418379882012-03-09T11:05:35.293-06:002012-03-09T11:05:35.293-06:00Good to see this comment from Paul Dewar:
He also...Good to see this comment from Paul Dewar:<br /><br /><i>He also speaks a lot about wanting to run “issue-based campaigns” in the same way Harper’s Conservatives do, rallying party members around specific hot-button issues that motivate them to donate, organize and vote. “I don’t like the issues they run on, but they’ve done the organization well,” he said. “We’ve got to do the same.”</i><br /><br />Unlike Nathan Cullen who believes he's above "rolling in the mud"...Dewar, Topp & Mulcair realize that "the mud" is precisely where the large mass of simple/innocent voters work & live.<br /><br />These folks are not academics, they don't follow politics religiously. They're open to bold emotional messaging (otherwise known as "fear-mongering" among politicos) because they inherently trust that the messenger is on their side.<br /><br />We disagree with the neo-Conservatives. But Dewar cleverly implies that we should respect their achievements. Remember that when they arrived on the scene, they were much like the NDP...unpalatable to the media establishment & even voters. They refused to accept their place and proactively courted the larger mass of voters with simple messaging. In the end, they went from being untrustworthy outsiders to forming majority government.<br /><br />Specifics can always be debated (like does that mean we "lie", which I don't believe the Conservatives have done much in their comms strategy)...but remaining idle & oblivious (as Cullen suggests) is not an option.Dan Tannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11282727.post-23025695890476499552012-03-09T10:32:48.000-06:002012-03-09T10:32:48.000-06:00<span>Ecch! Should probably put a big discla...<span>Ecch! Should probably put a big disclaimer on that last video. <br /> <br />CBC's 'At Issue' only reflects the range of debate within the Liberal party. The panelists are two conservative Liberals (Anderson & Coyne) & one centrist Liberal (Hebert). <br /> <br />Not alone in this, CTV launched something called 'National Affairs'. The show teams up one Conservative (Keridan) with two centrist Liberals (Griffiths & Reid). <br /> <br />More confirmation that the Liberal party is indeed the "media party". <br />And even more confirmation that Lawrence Martin was correct when, last year, he pointed out that the NDP has a constituency of ZERO in the media (print & broadcast). An unheard of situation for any official-opposition party in a western democracy (according to Lawrence Martin). <br /> <br />Something for the new leader to consider when the Conservative character assassination campaign begins. Outsourcing his/her defense, as the Liberals (Dion & Ignatieff) did, is not an option.</span>Dan Tannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11282727.post-50912014930822790852012-03-09T10:30:16.000-06:002012-03-09T10:30:16.000-06:00Ecch! Should probably put a big disclaimer on that...Ecch! Should probably put a big disclaimer on that last video.<br /><br />CBC's 'At Issue' only reflects the range of debate within the Liberal party. The panelists are two conservative Liberals (Anderson & Coyne) & one centrist Liberal (Hebert). <br /><br />Not alone in this, CTV launched something called 'National Affairs'. The show teams up one Conservative (Keridan) with two centrist Liberals (Griffiths & Reid).<br /><br />More confirmation that the Liberal party is indeed the media party".<br />And even more confirmation that Lawrence Martin was correct when, last year, he pointed out that the NDP has a constituency of ZERO in the media (print & broadcast).<br /><br />Something for the new leader to consider when the Conservative character assassination campaign begins. Outsourcing his/her defense, as the Liberals (Dion & Ignatieff) did, is not an option.Dan Tannoreply@blogger.com